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CAT/C/27/D/162/2000

Y.H.A. v. Australia

UNO-Ausschuss gegen Folter (CAT) · 2001-11-23 · en UN

Decision on merits; Substantive issues: non-refoulement refugee status torture; Articles: 3 (1) 3 (2); Procedural issues: ratione materiae interim measures; [CAT: UNO-Antifolterkonvention, Übereinkommen gegen Folter; Convention contre la torture; Convenzione contro la tortura]

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Y.H.A. (name withheld) v. Australia, Communication No. 162/2000,

U.N. Doc. CAT/C/27/D/162/2000 (2002).

Communication No.162/2000

Submitted by : Y.H.A (name withheld) [represented by counsel]

Alleged victim: The author

State party: Australia

Date of communication: 14 April 2000

The Committee against Torture, established under Article 17 of the Convention

against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment,

Meeting on 23 November 2001,

Having concluded its consideration of communication No. 162/2000, submitted to

the Committee against Torture under article 22 of the Convention against Torture

and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment,

Having taken into account all information made available to it by the author of the

communication, his counsel and the State party,

Adopts its Views under article 22, paragraph 7, of the Convention.

1. The petitioner of the communication is Mr. Y H A, a Somali national from the

Shikal clan, currently detained in a Detention Centre in New South Wales, and

seeking refugee status in Australia. He claims that forcible return to Somalia would

constitute a violation, by Australia, of article 3 of the Convention against Torture

and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment. He is

represented by counsel.

1.2 On 20 April 2000, the Committee forwarded the communication to the State

party for comments and requested, under rule 108, paragraph 9, not to return the

author to Somalia while his communication was under consideration by the

Committee. The State party has acceded to this request.

Facts as submitted by the petitioner

2.1 The petitioner was born on 1 January 1967 in Mogadishu. He has a son who, at

the time of his application to the Refugee Review Tribunal ("RRT"), was living

with the petitioner's father in Kenya. The petitioner's mother is dead and he has

four siblings all living in Kenya with the exception of one living in Holland.

2.2 From 1980 to 1987, the petitioner lived with his family in Galkayo, in the

North East of the country, where he was educated and trained as a mechanic. The

family then returned to Mogadishu where the petitioner worked as a shopkeeper

from 1989 to 1991.

2.3 The petitioner left Somalia in 1991 because his father, who had been a police

officer in the former Siad Barre government, was being sought after by the United

Somali Congress (USC) militia. In early 1991, the members of this militia came to

the petitioner's family home and raped and killed his sister. The petitioner moved

to Kenya, where he lived from early 1991 to late 1992 and he also spent some time

there in 1994. During his time in Kenya he worked in a restaurant.

2.4 In 1992, the petitioner returned to Somalia because his wife was a member of

the Hawiye clan (the same clan as the USC militia) and this offered him some

protection. From 1992 to 1994, the petitioner worked for the United Nations

Operation in Somalia (UNOSOM) in Mogadishu as an "informer" telling them

where guns were kept. On 3 October 1993, the USC, having found out that the

petitioner was giving information to the UNOSOM, killed the petitioner's wife and

shot the petitioner wounding him in the kidney.

2.5 Subsequently in 1994, while the petitioner was at his father-in-law's house, the

USC shot the petitioner in the shoulder and killed his sister-in-law. As his father-

in-law, was a Hawiye clan member he was able to prevent any further killing but

later told the petitioner he could not protect him any longer and took him to the

airport where the petitioner flew to Kenya with his son.

2.6 The petitioner remained illegally in Kenya until 1997. Then he left for Zambia

and subsequently South Africa where he bought a passport in a different name and

used it to travel to Australia. The petitioner arrived in Australia on 16 July 1998

with no documents. On 28 July 1998 he applied for a protection visa to the

Australian Department of Immigration and Multicultural Affairs ("DIMA"). On 21

August 1998, the petitioner's application was refused. The petitioner sought review

of this decision by the RRT which affirmed the decision not to grant a protection

visa.

2.7 The RRT expressed reservations about the veracity of the petitioner's claims

but it made no finding that the events as described by the petitioner did not happen.

It found that the petitioner could return to Somalia and live outside Mogadishu, in

the Galkayo area in North Eastern Somalia. In making its decision, the RRT took

note of independent reports that factions in the North East and North West of

Somalia would not accept forced returnees. It also noted that the petitioner was not

willing to return to any area of Somalia including Galkayo. However, it considered

that these factors did not convert his status into that of a refugee.

2.8 The petitioner sought judicial review of the RRT decision in the Federal Court

of Australia. On 10 September 1999, the Federal Court dismissed the petitioner's

application upon which the petitioner lodged an appeal to the Full Federal Court of

Australia. On 10 March 2000, the Full Federal Court dismissed this appeal. The

petitioner lodged an application for special leave to appeal from the decision of the

Full Federal Court to the High Court of Australia. The petitioner notes that this is

the final appellate court in Australia.

2.9 According to the petitioner, Somalia remains a failed state and a territory

revealing a consistent pattern of gross and flagrant human rights abuses. (1) He

says that the situation of the Shikal in Somalia is well-known. Amnesty

International has described the Shikal as being "vulnerable to serious abuses

including arbitrary killings", and has stated that it "is opposed to the return of

anyone from the Shikal clan to Somalia". He states that the facts of this case are

similar to those in the case of Elmi v. Australia (2), where the Committee found a

violation of article 3 of the Convention. The petitioner also refers to relevant

United Nations bodies which have made it clear that they are opposed to the

involuntary repatriation of failed asylum seekers to Somalia. (3)

The complaint

3. The petitioner claims that, due to the previous attacks the petitioner has suffered

at the hands of the USC, there are substantial grounds for believing that the

petitioner would be in danger of being subjected to torture on return to Somalia

and, therefore, Australia would be violating article 3 of the Convention if he were

returned there. The petitioner points out that according to respected sources, "a

consistent pattern of gross, flagrant or mass violations of human rights", prevails in

Somalia, and refers in this regard to article 3(2) of the Convention. It is claimed

that the petitioner himself would be personally at risk of being subjected to torture

if returned to Somalia. He also says that his clan is a minority clan and, therefore,

would be unable to protect him.

The State party's observations on admissibility and merits

4.1 The State party submits that this communication is inadmissible ratione

materiae on the basis that the Convention is not applicable to the factual situation

submitted by the petitioner. In particular, the State party contends that the

treatment the petitioner may or may not endure if he is returned to Somalia, does

not fall within the definition of torture as set out in article 1 of the Convention. The

State party submits, that to be classified as torture, the given conduct must inflict

"severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental." The State party is of the

opinion that, although past events are a guide to what may occur in the future, the

past incidents alleged by the petitioner do not indicate that it is foreseeable that he

would be the subject of torture if he returned to Mogadishu. It concedes that the

political situation in Somalia makes it possible that the petitioner may face

violations of his human rights, but contends that such violations will not

necessarily involve the kind of acts contemplated by article 1 of the Convention.

4.2 According to the State party, the petitioner alleges that the petitioner will be "at

risk from members of the United Somali Congress (USC) and "in danger because

he had formerly worked as an informer with the United Nations Operations in

Somalia (UNOSOM)" but he does not allege that he would be at risk or danger of

such acts as would contravene the Convention. In evidence presented to the RRT

the petitioner stated that "he could be attacked by Hawiye clans people to extort

money from him to support their militia, the USC". However, the threat of

extortion does not fall within the definition of article 1 of the Convention.

4.3 According to the State party, the petitioner has not adduced substantial

evidence that the petitioner is faced with a risk of torture by the USC that is over

and above the risks faced by every resident of Mogadishu caught between factional

fighting of armed groups. It contends that the domestic review processes expressed

serious reservations as to the veracity of the petitioner's account of events,

including conflicting accounts of the incident involving the death of his wife and

the injury to himself. According to the State party, at the initial airport interview,

the petitioner failed to provide details that either his sister had been raped and

killed in 1991 or that his sister-in-law had been killed in a shooting incident in

1991 which also resulted in the petitioner being wounded. The petitioner initially

stated that he had never been outside Somalia but subsequently stated that he first

left Somalia in 1991. In a statutory declaration made to the RRT on 2 September

1998 the petitioner admitted that he made a number of false statements when he

arrived in Sydney. The State party also states that the RRT found it implausible

that UNOSOM would employ someone who had been out of the country for some

period to locate arms caches in Mogadishu. The State party also referred to the

RRT's finding that the petitioner had attempted to prevent the Tribunal from

investigating his case through people who have first hand information regarding

his situation since 1991.

4.4 Moreover, the State party submits that the acts the petitioner fears if he is

returned to Somalia do not fall within the meaning of "torture" in accordance with

article 1 of the Convention because they are not acts conducted by a public official

or person acting in an official capacity. The State party accepts that "members of

minority groups are subject to harassment, intimidation, and abuse by armed

gunmen of all affiliations" (4) but does not accept that these are committed by, or

at the instigation of, or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or any

other person acting in an official capacity" as required under article 1 of the

Convention. It asserts that these are acts committed by individuals in a private

capacity for reasons of personal gain. (5)

4.5 The State party refers to the Committee's View's in Elmi v. Australia, Case No.

120/1998, adopted on 14 May 1999 (6), and accepts that, although some clans may

operate as quasi-governmental institutions in some areas of Somalia, this must be

clearly differentiated from random acts of violence committed by individuals

acting in a private capacity. There is no evidence to suggest that all members of a

dominant clan at all times are acting in a quasi-governmental capacity. It would

also be difficult to determine whether militia are acting under specific orders at any

particular time as "security forces are unreliable, unpaid, untrained for peaceful

duties and often out of control." (7) To support its argument on the necessity to

consider whether acts are conducted in a public capacity or in a private capacity in

order to determine whether those acts constitute torture the State party provides

academic commentary and views of international and national courts and tribunals.

4.6 In addition, the State party contends that there is no evidence to suggest that the

alleged acts took place as a result of either, decisions made by clan hierarchy, or

orders from USC leaders. Neither is there any evidence to suggest that the alleged

acts were instigated on behalf of the clan or militia or that either the clan or militia

acquiesced or had any knowledge of the alleged acts. To support this argument, the

State party makes the following observations on the author's description of events.

With respect to the alleged rape and murder of the petitioner's sister at his family

home, the State party says that the petitioner's allegation that this was at the

instigation of the USC who were seeking out members of the police force of the

former regime, including the petitioner's father, is not consistent with a report of

the Assessment Mission to Mogadishu, in 1991. (8) The State party is of the

opinion that this incident was probably a consequence of the general climate of

violence described as prevalent in Mogadishu at that time, rather than the acts of

persons carrying out orders by USC leaders to torture and kill families of former

members of the Barre regime.

4.7 With respect to the murder of his wife and the assault on the petitioner himself,

the State party points out that the petitioner gave two versions of the incident.

Previously, he said that his house was struck by a bomb during fighting between

Aideed's forces (USC) and UNOSOM. Subsequently, the petitioner claimed that

the attack on his home followed earlier conversations with members of the Hamiye

clan regarding his father's employment with the Barre regime, during which the

Hawiye clan members stated that they wanted his house. In the event that his

second recollection of events is correct, it does not appear that the individual

concerned was acting in an official capacity. In addition, the petitioner does not say

that either his wife or father-in-law recognised the members as being leaders of the

clan or holding any position of authority within the clan, despite the fact that they

were both members of the same clan.

4.8 With respect to the incident in his father-in-laws house where the petitioner

was wounded and his sister-in-law was shot, the State party argues that although it

is probable that members of the USC militia were under orders to arrest, torture or

kill UNOSOM informants at that time, there is no explanation why the sister-in-

law was killed, when there was no allegation that she worked for UNOSOM, and

the petitioner himself only wounded. If the USC militia was acting in an official

capacity the representations made by the petitioner's father-in-law would have been

ignored unless he held some position of authority within the USC or Hawiye clan.

There is no evidence that this was the case.

5.1 On the merits, the State party argues that there is no evidence that the petitioner

would now face a risk of torture from the government if he was returned to

Somalia on the basis of either his father's former involvement with the Barre

regime or his employment with UNOSOM. (9) It states that the evidence available

to Australia suggests that the new government of Somalia, which has been elected

along strict clan lines, is headed by an interim President who was himself a

Minister in the former Barre regime. (10)The President appointed a former

member of the Barre regime as his Prime Minister, who served as Ministry of

Industry between 1980 and 1982. The Transitional National Assembly consisting

of 245 seats, includes representatives from minority clans as well as the dominant

clans in Somalia. In addition, there are currently three Shikal representatives in this

Assembly who are part of the Hawiye clan allocation of representatives. These

representatives were also closely linked with the former Barre regime. The fact that

both the President and Prime Minister of the newly formed government were

Ministers in the former Barre regime indicates that senior members of the former

regime are no longer targeted, although this might have occurred immediately

following the downfall of the Barre regime.

5.2 The State party also refers to the Interim President's address to the United

Nations General Assembly on 19 September 2000, in which he "extended his

appreciation to the UN for its efforts to alleviate the plight of the Somali people

over the past 10 years and described the recent creation of Somalia's National

Assembly as the beginning of a new era of peace and stability".

5.3 Although the State party does not deny that the attacks on the petitioner, his

wife, his sister and sister-in-law may have occurred and that at that time and

immediately afterwards the petitioner may have felt particularly vulnerable to

attack by USC militia, and that this fear my have caused him to flee Somalia, this

is not evidence that he would now face a threat from either of the two factions of

the USC i.e. the SNA or SSA. (11) In this context the State party adds that the

leader of the SSA, is also a member of the new Transitional National Assembly

and has indicated that he supports the new President.

5.4 As to the petitioner's fear of torture because of his position within UNOSOM,

the State party contends that there is no evidence that this was a significant

position or that he was known generally as being employed by UNOSOM or

contributing directly to the aims of UNOSOM. Neither is there any evidence to

suggest that former employees of UNOSOM are at risk by either the SNA or SSA.

Furthermore, in the absence of any central records kept in Somalia for almost a

decade it is difficult to ascertain how members of either the SNA or SSA would

know about the petitioner's involvement with UNOSOM without the petitioner's

own admission.

5.5 On the allegation that the petitioner is a member of a minority clan that is

unable to offer him protection anywhere in Somalia, the State party observes that

the petitioner did not indicate in his evidence to the Refugee Review Tribunal

hearing that he feared he would he tortured because he was a member of the Shikal

clan. Rather, he stated that "his clan would not be able to protect him but he could

be attacked by the Hawiye clan to extort money from him to support their militia,

the USC." According to the State party, this does not show how he would

personally be at risk as a member of the Shikal clan.

5.6 The State party accepts that there has been a consistent pattern of gross,

flagrant or mass violations of human rights in Somalia in general and that members

of small, unaligned and unarmed clans, like the Shikal, have been more vulnerable

to human rights violations than members of larger clans. Although there has been

continued violence and upheaval, the risk is faced by the population at large and is

particularly high in Mogadishu and in Southern Somalia. This does not constitute

evidence that the petitioner himself is personally at risk of torture. In addition, the

State party states that, although the level of violence has declined since the election

of the interim government, the situation remains tense. The interim government has

incorporated many of the militia into a national police force. Although some of the

faction leaders in Mogadishu have refused to recognise the interim government,

the Habr-Girdir sub-clan of the Hawiye clan supports the interim president. The

faction leaders currently in South Mogadishu come from the Habr-Gridir sub-clan

as does the interim president.

5.7 The State party observes that the domestic review processes found that even if

the petitioner did face a danger of torture if he was returned to Mogadishu, he

would have the alternative of settling in Galkayo, (North East Somalia) where he

previously resided for a significant amount of time and learned a skill. The

domestic review processes also found that the authorities in that region accepted

members of other clans, that the region was still relatively stable and that the

petitioner would have meaningful protection from any harm he claimed to fear.

USC militia or its factions are not in control of this area which is controlled by the

Somali Salvation Democratic Front (SSDF). Two reports conducted on this region

have indicated that North Eastern Somalia has been an area of relative peace and

stability where members of all Somali clans are welcome.

5.8 The State party submits that this finding made by the domestic review

procedures, of the possibility of the petitioner relocating to Galkayo, occurred prior

to the formation of a central government in Somalia, now established in

Mogadishu. As the petitioner was reluctant to return to this part of the country, and

given the new political situation as described in paragraph 5.1 above, the State

party submits that it is now unlikely that there would be any reason for him to find

it necessary to relocate to Galkayo rather than Mogadishu.

Petitioner's comments on the State party's submission

6.1 In response to the State party, the petitioner reaffirms his claim that he faces a

substantial risk of torture in Somalia because, as a member of the minority Shikal

clan, he is particularly vulnerable in the lawless conditions prevailing in the whole

of Somalia. He says that the RRT accepted that the petitioner was vulnerable but

rejected his claim as there was no nexus between the danger he faced and his clan

membership. He submits that no such nexus is required under the Convention

against Torture.

6.2 In dealing with acts of torture from so-called "non-State actors" or "quasi-State

actors", it is submitted that the Committee should adopt a broad conception of the

reach of state responsibility. In this regard, the petitioner points to the

jurisprudence on the European Convention on Human Rights. It is not necessary,

according to counsel, that the persons carrying out the acts of torture be somehow

"charged with" or "authorised" by some competent organ. Article 1 of the

Convention against Torture extends liability for acts of torture to include

"acquiescence" of the responsible person. Furthermore, counsel argues, that as was

recognised in Elmi v. Australia, where there has been a breakdown of government

authority, private groups practicing torture are in effect "acting in an official

capacity" in the area in question and article 3 relief should therefore be available.

6.3 According to the petitioner, recent peace initiatives have not ended the conflict

in Somalia. In its most recent report on the situation of human rights in Somalia of

13 March 2001, the United Nations Commission on Human Rights noted that

Mogadishu remains divided into fiefdoms controlled by the Transitional National

Government and a variety of faction leaders. He noted that inter-faction clashes

often lead to civilian casualties and loss of property, and it observed that there is a

sense of lawlessness prevailing in the city. He claims that, as a member of the

vulnerable clan, he would be particularly at risk in this climate. Even if he were

forcibly returned to the North East, as has been suggested by Australia, he would

have to pass through Mogadishu and thereby be placed at risk.

6.4 Finally, the petitioner adds that he cannot be forcibly returned to Galkayo in

any event, as the material before the RRT showed that forcible returnees are not

accepted in that part of Somalia. In any event, his membership of the Shikal clan

leaves him just as vulnerable in the North East of Somalia as, the report to the

Commission on Human Rights also noted, there continues to be serious fighting in

North Eastern Somalia, particularly around Galkayo.

Issues and Proceedings before the Committee

7.1 Before considering any claims contained in a communication, the Committee

against Torture must decide whether or not it is admissible under article 22 of the

Convention. In this respect the Committee has ascertained, as it is required to do

under article 22, paragraph 5 (a) of the Convention, that the same matter has not

been and is not being examined under another procedure of international

investigation or settlement. The Committee also notes that the exhaustion of

domestic remedies is not contested by the State party. It further notes the State

party's view that the communication should be declared inadmissible ratione

materiae on the basis that the Convention is not applicable to the facts alleged,

since the treatment, the petitioner may or may not suffer if he is returned to

Somalia does not foreseeably or necessarily amount to torture, set out in article 1

of the Convention, and would, in any event, not be inflicted by or at the instigation

of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or person acting in an

official capacity. The Committee, however, is of the opinion that the State party's

argument ratione materiae raises an issue which cannot be dealt with at the

admissibility stage. As the Committee sees no further obstacles to admissibility, it

declares the communication admissible.

7.2 The Committee must decide whether the forced return of the petitioner to

Somalia would violate the State party's obligation, under article 3, paragraph 1 of

the Convention, not to expel or return (refouler) an individual to another State

where there are substantial grounds for believing that he would be in danger of

being subjected to torture. In order to reach its conclusion the Committee must take

into account all relevant considerations, including the existence in the State

concerned of a consistent pattern of gross, flagrant or mass violations of human

rights. The aim, however, is to determine whether the individual concerned would

personally risk torture in the country to which he or she would return. It follows

that the existence of a consistent pattern of gross, flagrant or mass violations of

human rights in a country does not as such constitute sufficient grounds for

determining whether the particular person would be in danger of being subjected to

torture upon his return to that country; additional grounds must be adduced to show

that the individual concerned would be personally at risk. Conversely, the absence

of a consistent pattern of gross violations of human rights does not mean that a

person cannot be considered to be in danger of being subjected to torture in his or

her specific circumstances.

7.3 The Committee notes the petitioner's claim that he faces a real risk of being

tortured if returned to Somalia on the basis of his father's position as a police

officer in the previous government, his own position at the UNOSOM and his

vulnerability as a member of the Shikal clan. In support of his claim, he outlines

past incidents of torture against himself and his family. The Committee observes

that the State party does not deny that these incidents may have occurred but

argues that the petitioner has not been consistent in his description of events and

that these attacks were more likely to have occurred as part of the general climate

of violence in Mogadishu at the time rather than as a deliberate attempt to target

the petitioner for the reasons outlined by him. The Committee also observes that

the petitioner has failed to explain the inconsistencies in his description of the

attacks, which raise doubts with the Committee as to his credibility.

7.4 In addition, the Committee recalls that, even if the evidence of past torture

provided by the petitioner was not in question, the aim of the Committee's

examination of the communication is to ascertain whether the petitioner would risk

being subjected to torture now, if returned to Somalia. Given the composition of

the new Transitional government, including members of the Shikal clan itself, the

Committee is of the opinion that the petitioner would not now face such a risk. In

light of the foregoing, and while recognising the ongoing widespread violations of

human rights in Somalia, the Committee finds that the petitioner has not

established that he would face a foreseeable, real and personal risk of being

tortured within the meaning of article 3 of the Convention.

8. The Committee against Torture, acting under article 22, paragraph 7, of the

Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or

Punishment, concludes that the petitioner's removal to Somalia by the State party

would not constitute a breach of article 3 of the Convention.

Notes

1. Counsel refers to the "1999 Country Reports on Human Rights Practices",

Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor, U.S. Department of State,

February 25, 2000.

2. Case No. 120/1998, adopted on 14 May 1999.

3. In this context, he refers to the Report on the Situation of Human Rights in

Somalia, in which the Special Rapporteur noted the UNHCR policy of voluntary

repatriation and the "dumping" in Somalia of asylum seekers by some Western

countries which had led to problems of safety for rejected asylum seekers. He also

refers to the opinion of the same Special Rapporteur who expressed alarm at a plan

being considered which would make it difficult for Somalis to seek asylum in the

European Union States, and stated that in the absence of recognised structures in

Somalia that the international community could formally call upon for human

rights protection, Somalis should not be forced to return to Somalia. See Situation

of Human Rights in Somalia, Report of the Special Rapporteur, Ms. Mona

Rishmawi, submitted on accordance with the Commission on Human Rights

resolution 1998/59, at paragraph 85.

4. US Department of State 1999 Country Reports on Human Rights Practices in

Somalia, p.10.

5. The State party refers to the US Department of State Country Reports on Human

Rights Practices from 1999 which states that "boys as young as 14 or 15 years of

age have participated in militia attacks, and many youths are members of the

marauding gangs known as "morian" or "parasites or maggots".

6. In Elmi v Australia, it was found that "those factions exercise certain

prerogatives that are comparable to those normally exercised by legitimate

governments. Accordingly, the members of those factions can fall, for the purposes

of the application of the Convention, within the phrase "officials or other persons

acting in an official capacity" contained in article 1".

7. Comment on Somalia's quasi-governmental institutions by the Somali

Researcher, Dr Martin Hill, of the International Secretariat of Amnesty

International in London.

8. A Report of the Assessment Mission to Mogadishu, Hiran, Bay, Middle

Shabelle and Lower Shabelle Regions from February 23rd to March 4th, 1991 to

the Inter-NGO Committee for Somalia (UK and Kenya). This report states that

"there are an estimated 3,500 people on the police force at the moment" and that

"police were visible mainly at the airport, and sometimes on the street". The report

also says that there was a significant problem of looting, killing and assaults.

9. The State party refers the Committee to its decision in X, Y, Z v. Sweden, Case

No. 61/1996, adopted on 6 May 1998, in which it stated that "past torture is one of

the elements to be taken into account by the Committee when examining a claim

concerning article 3 of the Convention, but the aim of the Committee's examination

of the case is to find whether the petitioners would risk being subjected to

torture now, it returned.

10. According to the State party, when questioned about the Barre regime the

President stated the following " I was a member of Siad Barre's government. Let

me state there are, right now in Somalia, there are three generations. The first

generation of independence ..[t]he second generation is my generation, and

practically everyone of my generation had a role in twenty years of government.

That was not Siad's government, it was the nation's government. Siad was the

president, the man who was leading Somalia for 20 years. Everyone who was in

Somalia for 20 Years. Everyone who was in Somalia – intellectual or otherwise –

served in one or other capacity in that administration. Not necessarily as a minister,

but in any capacity."

11. The State party refers to the petitioner's fear that he will be subjected to torture

by the USC militia. However, it submits, that the USC divided into two armed

factions (the SNA and SSA) shortly after 1991 and it is unclear from the case to

which faction the petitioner refers when using the term "USC". Both the SNA and

SSA are dominated by rival sub-clans, the Abgal and Habr-Girdir of the Hawiye

clan.